Guild S281 Flyer

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I got this guitar because it had a ridiculously low price and it said Guild on it. It was a completely blind purchase and I had absolutely no idea what to expect because I had never owned a Guild super Strat and always sort of thought that they were the long-forgotten failed group of guitars that were overshadowed by the likes of S100s, S300s, and Bluesbirds.

Since I have always favored Jacksons for my super Strat needs, I had never even considered one of these mid-late ’80s Guilds. Let’s see how it faired after I tore it apart and gave it the review treatment.

Introduction

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This guitar was listed for sale as a 1985 S280 Flyer and it is actually a 1986 S281 Flyer. What’s the difference? I’m not entirely sure.

As much as I like to research this stuff, after I managed to score scans of the catalogs and price lists from the mid 1980s I’m still not sure what’s what. How do I know this is a 1986 S-281? Because I emailed Hans Moust (author of the Guild Guitar Book) who kindly told me so. You see, Guild did away with the model number on the truss rod for these guitars and there are no labels inside the control cavity so the only way to really know for sure is to have an original receipt (probably) or to ask Hans. As for why it’s an S-281 and not an S-280, we’ll just have to wait for his next book to find out, and after going through the meager documents I have access to, I’d say that book will be worth every penny.

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The Modern Aviation Guild catalog (I assume it’s a catalog) shows the S-280 with a maple neck and Guild speed knobs, so I immediately thought that the maple neck made it an S-280 and that my guitar’s rosewood neck made it an S-281, but it says right on the same page that all of them are available with Rosewood. Maybe the S-281 is just a later year’s model? I have no idea.

My best description of the S-281 is that it’s kind of a goofy-looking Strat-like guitar with offset horns, a bolt-on neck, rosewood fretboard, a poplar body and dual humbuckers. Oh yeah – with a Kahler. The Kahler makes it a super Strat I suppose, but do they all have Kahlers? Apparently not. Here’s where I try my best to research what the actual answer might be. Hint: I have limited resources and patience and would rather spend the time abusing this cool white guitar from the ’80s.

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The price guide from 1984 shows an S-280 and an S-280K (for Kahler) which probably means that there are S-280s out there without them and indeed after some searching I did find S-280s online with a regular adjust-o-matic bridge and stop tailpiece. The first one I found even had a maple fretboard so they’re definitely out there which is good to know if you’re after the ergonomics of a guitar like this but you’re not a fan of the floating bridge. Having a guitar with a pointy headstock but without a floating double-locking super-80’s mega-bridge just seems like a violation of some sort, but then I grew up playing in the ’80s, so I may have a distorted view of reality.

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The S-281 in my possesion looks just like the one in the Guild New Guitarchitecture catalog from around 1984, which is filled with some very fine examples of rare Guild electric guitars including the uber-rare X-100 Blade Runner, but since I don’t have one of those I’m not going to talk about it any more lest I resort to sulking about its absence in my collection.

As previously mentioned, the 1984 Price guide shows an S-280 and an S-280K where the S-280 was $550 and the S-280K was $750. You could also order Custom or Stock graphics for another $100-$250. Let’s talk about those graphics, shall we?

The ’80s was the time of custom graphics, and Guild was not about to be left behind by that craze, nor were they to be left out of the  “could you make it an even hotter pink” thing that also seemed to be happening.

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In this piece of Guild marketing goodness, you can see everything you need to know about what it was like to be a guitar-shopping long-haired musician in the ’80s. From seizure-inducing patterns to retina-burning day-glo colors, the ’80s was about screaming to the world how manly you were by wearing as much makeup, mascara, and hairspray as possible while wearing highly contrasting (usually torn) spandex and playing classically inspired riffs at 180 beats per minute on a pointy supercharged hot-pink guitar. It was a hell of a time to be alive.

I can still smell the Aquanet.

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Sadly (or luckily depending on your point of view) the S-281 (with a K?) that I was lucky enough to buy on the cheap is good old-fashioned boring white. Well, it’s more of an ivory, really.

Even though it’s not an exciting hot pink guitar with a white heartbeat on it, I can easily imagine a group of long-haired ’80s guys wearing all white, probably with matching white captain’s hats and black highlights. That would be a perfect look for an all-white (eggshell?) guitar such as this. Nah, that would just be silly. I mean, that album was released in 1979 years before the release of the Guild S-280 let alone the S-281. Also only two of them had long hair. Oh, and from what I’ve been able to find none of them played Guilds.

Once again, many thanks to Kurt from the Guilds of Grot for the catalog scans, some of which I’ve been trying to find physical copies of for longer than I care to admit. 

This is a fun guitar. I kind of wish I had it during the ’80s, but I have it now and though pink spandex may have gone out of style (at least for men), shredding on a cool guitar like the Guild S-281 never will.

Finish

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The finish on this guitar is almost certainly Poly. There are cracks and dings and divots all over it but they’ve all been filled, painted, spackled, cemented or who knows what. Since the guitar is white (more or less) the fixes are all but invisible at more than about a foot away, and as you can see from this close-up of the output jack section, the fixes are not smooth, clean, or in anyway hidden aside from them also being white. In fact, the patches of Bondo (probably) used to fix this guitar are the only things on it that actually are white.

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A word about the color of this guitar is in order. It’s white. Well, ivory. Actually it’s sort of an eggshell and it’s not quite cream. Screw it; it’s white…ish.

Colors available as listed in the 1984 price guide include Black, Candy Apple Red, Pearl White, and Sunburst, though custom “crystal” colors were also listed for a $50 upcharge, so I guess this guitar is pearl white. The reason I go on about what color it actually is has to do with the fact that digital cameras have something called white balance and different lights, all of which look white to our human brains, are perceived differently by the camera.

Since I recently got a new pure white backdrop for my photos I naturally also scored my first white guitar. Photographing white objects on a white background can be complicated but the issue is easily solved with the right lighting setup – a lighting setup that I don’t have. That’s why in some of the photos the guitar looks very white while in others it looks sort of off-white: because I don’t have the right equipment and I’m too lazy/stupid/unwilling to adjust all of the photos to have the matching white balance. It’s a white guitar; moving on.

Well, off-white…

Fretboard and Neck

The scale length is 25 5/8″ according to the Guild documents. I’m not sure why 25 1/2″ wasn’t good enough, but to my mind the difference of 1/8″ is a wash once you get to the Kahler bridge. And that right there is why I’m not a luthier.

The neck is a natural maple and the fretboard is unbound rosewood. The fret markers are likely pearloid dots. The neck measures 1 5/8″ at the nut and the neck has a nice feel to it. It’s not rediculously thin like many Ibanez RGs I’ve played, but rather has more of a Strat shape to it.  I was surprised at how much I liked the neck given my dislike for 1 5/8″ guitars and I think it might have something to do with the neck being unbound. As a matter of fact, all of the 1 5/8″ necks I like from Guild are unbound. Coincidence? Further study is needed.

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The fretboard radius is 14″ and the frets measure at about .100″ wide by .045 high which makes this the first Guild guitar I’ve ever played with jumbo frets which may be a contributing fact as to why I like to play it so much.

I had to measure the frets about five times because I had trouble believing a Guild had anything but low wide frets, but now that I was looking for it, I realized that I could easily squeeze chords out of tune on this guitar which is not something I can do on my other Guild electrics, and just to placate the doubters out there who think “that’s because of the Kahler”, if there wasn’t enough room between the top of the frets and the fretboard, it wouldn’t be possible to squeeze the strings out of tune regardless of the bridge installed. Luckily I spent years playing Jacksons so my death-grip chord days are behind me otherwise the frets probably would have driven me crazy.

This is also the first Guild I’ve ever owned that has a bolt-on neck. I would have pulled it but was hesitant to do so given the existing cracks shown in the next section.

I’m not usually a fan of bolt-on necks, mostly because my only guitar for years was a Guild S300A-D with a set neck and because of my love of Jackson thru-necks, so the feeling of the big square neck joint is kind of jarring to me. My one and only bolt-on guitar before this one is an American Deluxe Fender Stratocaster that has the sharp corner smoothed down which makes it more tolerable. Surprisingly this guitar doesn’t bother me at all and I’m not sure why. It’s got to have something to do with the overall geometry of the instrument. Perhaps be big long body alters the center of gravity which means I don’t pick it up right at the heal like I do most other guitars. I do notice the heal when I play the highest of the 22 frets, but apparently it’s not a deal breaker for me anymore.

Build Quality

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This is a pretty solid guitar that’s a bit larger than the average Strat due to the body’s sort of melted shape.

This guitar weighs 8 lbs 2 oz, the vast majority of which is in the poplar body. Although the shape of the guitar is perhaps best described as a Strat that was left in the sun too long, the cut of the body is really quite ergonomic. With the bottom contour making the guitar great to play in a sitting position and the beveling across the top where your right forearm rests, this is really an amazingly comfortable guitar.

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The particular guitar has clearly had its share of bumps and bruises and based on some of the cracks and repairs I see, it may have dropped down a flight of stairs or possibly thrown out of a low-flying plane. Remarkably, though, the guitar plays like a dream and is rock solid in every way no matter how hard I abuse the Kahler, and let me tell you, I know how to abuse a Kahler.

Although the big butt on this guitar would lead you to believe that it would be very tail heavy, the center of gravity is right below the neck pickup so it hangs well when standing and just feels great. Judging by feel along, this is an absolutely fabulous guitar. Plus I get the feeling that I could club an interloper with it a-la Keith Richards and I bet it would stay in tune. Hell, judging by some of the cracks and patches in this thing, that may have already happened.

Pickups

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The original pickups in this guitar were California pickups made in Japan for Guild. I was not able to find a lot of detail about these pickups and I haven’t done any experiments so I can’t say much about them.

Of the two pickups in this guitar, only the neck is original, while the bridge is a Dimarzio DP-212 Eric Johnson Custom F-spaced pickup that was retrofitted at some time in the past. It sounds killer, and that’s all I’ll say about that since this is not an article about Eric Johnson custom pickups.

The pickups on this guitar are spaced farther apart than they are on any other dual humbucker guitar I have. My Jackson SL2H has them spaced 2.5″ measuring from slug to slug (slugs are the non-adjustable pole pieces on the pickups) while this S-281 Flyer measures 3.5″ from slug to slug. Both of the guitars in question are 25.5″ scale (OK, one is 25 5/8″) two-humbucker guitars but the Jackson has a 24-fret neck where the S280 has only 22 frets. Looking at my other Guilds, all of the dual-humbucker models are 24.75″ scale length and come with 24-fret necks so this guitar seemed very odd to me at first glance.

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California pickups are usually stamped with the words California Pickups (and some other stuff) on them, but the one in this guitar was significantly worn away. Hans was again kind enough to help me identify that the neck pickup is original which you can see in this thread over on the Lets Talk Guild forum.

Both of the pickups give good initial impressions but I can’t say that I was blown away by either of them. I also wasn’t annoyed enough to replace them, so I suppose that puts them in a certain sweet spot. To be fair, I did like them with high gain which is really what this guitar is all about.

Electronics

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The electronics in this guitar are very simple which was a pretty common design goal with super Strats in the ’80s. It seems that they were either super simple, often having only a single pickup and volume control, or ridiculously complicated to show how technologically advanced the guitar was.

In this guitar, the two pickups connect to the pickup selector switch, the pickup connector switch connects to the Tone and Volume knobs, and the Volume knob connects to the output jack. The end. They actually did make a simpler one with only one pickup, volume and tone which is a pretty cool combination, especially in red.

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Where things get interesting is that the tone pot is a 200k Ω logarithmic taper pot which I’ve seen on some other Guild humbucker-equipped guitars. It’s pretty standard practice to use 500K Ω pots on humbuckers, but Guild seems to favor the 200K Ω pots for some reason. I can see why on the very bright HB-1 pickups but on these 80’s models with darker pickups I find their use rather interesting. Regardless, the guitar sounds fantastic as-is so I wouldn’t change a thing. Well, I might clean up the electrical tape and resolder with some shrink-wrap, but none of that will affect the sound.

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The volume pot is a 500k Ω pot, and everything else about the guitar is pretty straightforward. Like I wrote above – as simple as could be.

The wiring in the control cavity was less than clean when I got it, but I can’t blame that on Guild since one of the pickups was replaced. Whoever did that work was a fan of electrical tape because there was a fair bit of it in there insulating the signal bits from the grounding bits but it does its job.

Hardware

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The tuners are tightly packed mini grovers that work great even if they’re not the original model or finish for this guitar. My guess looking at other photos of S-281s on the web is that these should be Gotoh M6-style mini tuners in black, or whatever the equivalent was at the time.

Knobs are very nice knurled metal affairs that match the Kahler bridge nicely. The knobs are very far apart and the pickup selector switch is similarly spaced away from the knobs making this guitar a delight to use since it’s not often you’ll grab the wrong control. The pickup selector switch is typical of Guild electrics from the ’70s and ’80s including the fantastic metal switch tip that’s so hard to replace.

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The strap pegs are typical screw-in pegs that are nothing special but since they’re also chrome I have to wonder if they’re original, though if I were to replace strap pegs I’d put strap locks on.

The bridge appears to be a Kahler 2300 Pro which is a very well made unit which sort of surprised me because I spent the ’80s espousing my hatred for Kahlers and looking at this one, I have to wonder why. It’s low-profile, rock solid, and does the job. The only complaint I have with it thus far is that my palm tends to rub against the fine tuning knobs which throws the low E string out of tune, sometimes by a lot.

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One thing I don’t like about this particular Kahler system is the locking nut which I consider to be a pain in the ass. The cool part is that the hex screws and caps don’t seem to come off which is a constant risk when changing strings on a Floyd Rose-equipped guitar since if you drop one and you lose it it’s gone forever. The problem I had with this model was that it was far too difficult to get the high-E string through the contraption. It could be dirty but since i can’t easily dismantle it, I can’t tell.

Sound

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This guitar does clean tones pretty well and I especially like the neck pickup, which in this case is the original Californa pickup that came with the guitar. The bridge pickup, remember, is the Eric Johnson Custom, so the recordings are not really a fair representation of the guitar as it came from the factory, though with the amount of distortion I threw at it the minor nuances probably don’t matter all that much.

I like this guitar a lot with the super high-gain amp settings and having them on just begs for whammy bar abuse.

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D-Shape Chords

Open Chords #1

Open Chords #2

BackLine

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Thor’s Hammer

D-Shape Chords

12th Fret Riff

Warmup Riff

’80s Sounding Nonsense

As usual, for these recordings I used my normal Axe-FX Ultra setup through the QSC K12 speaker recorded into my trusty Olympus LS-10. As usual, I recorded using the Tiny Tweed patch, as well as the Backline patch, and then for fun used the Thor’s Hammer and Saw patch which is supposedly the Axe-FX’s take on a Diezel VH4 with a Rat overdrive in front (and some EQ and reverb on the back). For each recording I cycled through the neck pickup, both pickups, and finally the bridge pickup. Well, towards the end I just wailed on the bridge pickup because the Thor’s Hammer setting just took me over. All knobs on the guitar are on 10 at all times.

I quite enjoyed the neck pickup tones on all settings, but especially with high gain when soloing on the high frets. I enjoyed the bridge pickup with power chords, drop-D stuff and especially some down-tuned chugga chugga metal riffs with the volume turned up loud.

I found that I didn’t necessarily enjoy this guitar for Van Halen stuff, and I’m not exactly sure why. I don’t thing the guitar interacted with the amp in a way that I felt the individual string articulation during chords. This is one of those times where I’m overanalyzing things, though, and I think is one of those “only the guitarist even notices” things. Still, I noticed.

I kind of also felt like the guitar didn’t have quite the sustain that I like, though with the compressor on and the gain turned up sustain can be forced from it with ease. Playing the guitar on the edge of feedback was easy and rewarding but sometimes on even a Plexi setting I felt like I had to coax work to get the guitar to sustain more. Remember, this is a guitar that’s apparently had a rough life, so there’s no telling if it’s this guitar, the pickups, or maybe just this Kahler that’s robbing the guitar of sustain.

In short, I felt like I was relying almost 100% on the amp for tone. That’s not the end of the world especially in the heavier metal genres, but it was notable to me having played many vintage Guilds with sweet clean tones all around.

Playability

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This guitar is a ball to play. It’s very ergonomic with the only exception being the neck heel, but that’s only because I’m used to Jacksons with their very sexy neck-through designs. The guitar is contoured in all the right places and it feels great sitting or standing.

The Kahler has its fans and detractors to be sure, and I was initially quite impressed with the build quality of the floating bridge, but I did have issues rubbing the fine tuners when palm muting or resting on the bridge and probably as a result, I felt like I had to tune the guitar more than I do my Floyd Rose quipped guitars. The fine tuners are also easier to turn and have a wider range of adjustment than the Floyd Rose. I was actually able to tune the low E down a half step which I can’t easily do on a Floyd, though of course I then had to retune the rest of the strings, but I found that to be a cool “feature”.

Another thing that seemed to happen a fair bit was that I would hook the bar on the high E-string during serious dives. This is likely a habit I’ve developed with the Floyd Rose, and I’m sure I could train myself out of it, but it happened quite a few times so I thought I’d mention it.

Note that my last two issues may be 100% Kahler related and not necessarily the fault of the guitar, but since many of these S280s and S281s came with Kahlers, I felt they were worth a mention.

Conclusion

It’s probably not fair to make a judgement on a guitar when it’s bashed and bruised, has only one original pickup and none of the original tuners, but this is a damn fine guitar. In fact, I was so impressed by this Guild S-281 from 1986 that I started to seek out other aviation Guilds from the ’80s.

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This guitar is very simple, very comfortable, and plays great. Yeah, it’s got that pointy-stock ’80s thing going on, but no matter its looks, this is a great guitar. Believe it or not I had this and my 1988 Guild Liberator Elite at the same time and I was happily going back between them non-stop for weeks, and in some ways that you’ll read about when I review the Liberator Elite, this guitar was better than that top of the line shredder!

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The best part about this guitar is the price. This is an American made super-Strat that I scored for about $350, and many of the Guilds from the same era sell for similar prices. Sure, it may cost more in mint condition, but even then I see them sell for $500. This is a LOT of guitar for the money.

Honestly, I was surprised how much I liked playing this guitar. These guitars seem to go unnoticed by a lot of people which is a shame because they really can rock. Sure, you might end up changing the pickups, but that’s true of almost any guitar (for me, anyway). Maybe the pointy headstock is not your thing, and maybe the idea of a Kahler make you roll your eyes, but if you want or need a guitar to get your ’80s on, this is a great way that with an American-made guitar for not a lot of cash. Plus, don’t forget that stop-tail models are out there.

Be on the lookout for more reviews of ’80s Guild shredders at gadsguilds.com because this guitar is the gateway drug to them all and I am so hooked.

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